November 28, 2005

For Evolution v. "ID" fence-sitters

I've spent a lot of time over the past week thoroughly enjoying the feedback section of Talkorigins.org. Something I've noticed that has allowed for the most amusement is that there is a surprising amount of insulting, threatening and just plain stupid hate mail coming from self-proclaimed teenaged xtians.

Please enjoy a few examples:

from October 2005:

"u people are the most f***ing redeclouis web site i have ever been on u asswholes. Go f*** someone up the ass u c***s.All the basterds that are looking at this u should go suck yours and someone elses dick.thank u for all of your f***ing conserns,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Starla hutchinsonbitchf***ingasswholes"

To be fair this person doesn't state her age, but seriously now - does she have too?

"I am a 13 year old girl. I believe in God and I am a Christian. Evolution doesn't give you any kind of fact. The Bible does, I'm sorry you don't believe the same way I do, but I know that God created all living things and made them wonderful, and that's a FACT!"

"I am 13 years old and have never heard any bull shit that ur sayin about my god in my life and if there is no Jesus or GOd prove it!! ya thats what i though he is there and if u dotn wanna beleive in him u will go to hell its that simple becuase when ur in hell and u r wonderin why its cause u dont got him ! if u talk any more crap about my god i wil get angry plus after he died for u to be here right now and u still wotn beleive in him u r a fool all of u ! The person who disagrees with u SEan hurley"

from August 2005:

"Dude ure a toal noob, creation ownz your mom in teh faceorz.
Like seriously if you were playing counter strike right now, and your "evidence ofr evolution was your headshot skillz. the big dR.D would be pwning you in teh face. Shut down teh site noob."

There is also those who are just plain confused (from October 2005):

"How can a theory be fact? Are we now changing the definitions of our words to fit our opinions? Sorry not falling for it. Evolution is a religion, no matter what neat scientific names you attach to it. You are surely defending it with a religious fervor. Thank you for your time."

There are also just the insane ramblings (from October 2005):

"since you know more than God, everything you say must be right. Or maybe not. Most of what you believe and hold as truth are THEORIES! Evolution my eye. speaking of eyes, tell me how they "evolved" will you? then perhaps you can explain how A fish crawled out of the sea and evolved into a mammal with lungs without dying before he evolved. You scientists make up something to explain all of your theories without ANY proof. You are fools living a lie. And being as Satan is the father of lies, he is your master. Turn or Burn boys!"

From August 2005:
"Evolution is fake. I want evolutionist to explain this. How do grass and trees grow from a small seed (Genesis 1:11). The sky is unreachable and it had to be a creator to that. People dying in their sleep. The Moon, sun, stars, clouds,rainbow,mountains, planets outer space. Why are ya'll celebrating Christmas without knowing the true meaning. It is better to Worship GOD and there is not one, then to be athiest and he is there. Psalms 53- the fool hath said in his heart there is no GOD. And Romans 1:20-For the visible things of him from the creation of the world are claerly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. so u ca'nt say u did not know. Amen"

Notice that these are all Xtian posters. Xtian posters who seem to think psoting bible verses proves anything. I have yet to see a Muslim, a Jew or a Whathaveyou ranting on about ID as a positive thing. I have seen them questioning Evolution, but not supporting ID. (If I'm wrong, please correct me.)

(However, let me also point out that among the goofy hate mail there are many many shining examples of Xtians who are supportive of the site, or at least courteous in their rejection of it. Maybe there's hope for humanity afterall.)

This combined with Pat Roberstson's lovely speech about God abandoning those who live in Dover, PA because they "voted god out of their school system" - has to finally prove to anyone who may still be sitting on the fence about Evolution versus ID voodoo that this manufactured "controversy" is not about "teaching opposing views" but about forcing the Xtian religion into science class. This is about circumventing current law so that whackadoo Xtians can spread their meme around - as they are apparently compelled to do. AND this is about redefining science so that it ceases to be science at all.

But, as I've said before - let them fill their kids heads with silly fairy tales and allow their kids to get a terrible education. McDonald's will always need people to work the night shift.